WHY YOU DON'T WANT AN ATTORNEY
Should I hire an attorney?

That is a question that each must answer for themselves.  However, before making that decision, you might wish to consider the following questions and answers:

1. To what or whom is an attorney's first duty?  We consult the latest Corpus Juris Secundum (C.J.S.) legal encyclopedia, volume 7, section 4 for the answer below: 

2. What is the legal relationship between an attorney and his/her client? 

3. What is a ward of the court? (Are you an infant or person of unsound mind?)
  
4. Do you need to challenge jurisdiction?  Better read the following, particularly "...because if pleaded by an attorney....."  

Conclusions of law: 

1.. When you hire an attorney, you become a ward of the court and a second class citizen and you admit the jurisdiction of the court in the matter at hand.  

2.. You can't hire an attorney if you want to challenge jurisdiction.  

3.. If you want to challenge jurisdiction, the only way you can do it is as a "sui juris" and/or "in propria persona".  

Should you hire an attorney? What do you think?  

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

 Copyright Chris Hansen
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Note: We Concur ! 

All we would add is that people need to also learn the difference between "represented" status and "Inherent Rights". 

How "pro se" literally means "represent myself" which is impossible - you ARE yourself; that the goal of the court is to keep everyone in a "represented" status, not telling you that you are not in a court of constitutional judicial due process in law. 

You STAND - in the court, Our courtrooms and Public record, Claiming Living Breathing Un-a-lein-able God Given Sovereign Authority, Exercising and Establishing BY YOUR PRESENCE the lawful jurisdiction.  

Wherever the King planted his flag and no other higher claim could be supported, there he was sovereign. That judge is a public servant along with the rest of the "members of the court". Do people think the King asked permission of his court to do ANYTHING? And it was the state that had to prove any claim against him and the people had to be witness to it (court and public record) to act against him. 

The idea is the same, the sovereignty was established as being the authority of the PEOPLE in a REPUBLIC (NOT a "democracy which is the collective "fiction" calling itself the "people") ....In that system, Inherent Rights are non existent, all consensus based, not law based, the system in place now. Corporate based, NOT the Bill of Rights mandated process.  

We are guaranteed a REPUBLIC in which the PEOPLE are the authority over their lives until they commit some real crime then the state has a lawful process that must be adhered to in processing that person. NOTHING short of that is lawful to restrict freeborn natural people. 

Right now the state/corporate interests are operating as the sovereigns, giving themselves "legal rights" that appear to be "rights" like living beings can only claim. Caselaw establishes that no attorney can make a human claim for another human.

We have one testimony from an attorney who quit admitting to the client that she could not defend his rights before the court Sui Juris. Rarely will attorneys tell people the truth, or anything that empowers them to help themselves. 

The attorney system is designed to keep the people dependant on the attorney, NOT to learn for themselves what is happening. The word "attorn" means "turn upside down" "turn over" as in "to the King, all the property" and that is what they do today... the "state" being the "king" now, the people without lawful process in administrative "kings courts" or corporate "jurisdictions" - all totally outside of the constitutional restrictions placed originally on government against the people to protect us. 

We have to restore it IN THE PROCESS when we go into the court, in each state. WE ACTIVATE THIS, OR EXERCISE IT BY DOING IT !!! TALK DOES NOT DO IT.... It has to be IN that sworn setting ON the public record YOU speaking your truth for yourself and everyone else, not compromising for any reason.)  

Where you STAND is where you make your lawful truthful claims, in a courtroom ON the public record, with witnesses to your claim. There is NO HIGHER AUTHORITY THAN CREATOR. Our Freedom is our Inheritance, Birthright of Freeborn Natural People. It is up to US to stop compromising our birthright and posterity. It is called STANDING. 

pamela gaston
www.avoiceforchildren.com